• UC / Episode 243
August 1, 2017

UC 243: Living My Illusion – Joel van der Molen.

The Up For A Chatters like people who think like they do, these are the people that they usually interview, but Joel is someone that challenges all three of them.  This interview is real, it opens up a can of worms and hearts and as women The Up For A Chatters become eloquent in asking Joel exactly what is living an illusion and how he found his truth.  In doing this The Up For A Chatters begin to question their resistance.