Kim calls Steve, Mr Phd, he works for Cyndi heading up her Nutrition Education Program and Carren is keen to meet the latest member of the Changing Habits Team.  This is the first male the Up For A Chat girls have interviewed (apart from Julius with his wife and partner Sharny).  Steve is a wealth of knowledge about science, he is a minimalist, environmentalist and has a degree and doctorate in biomedical science.  Kim and Carren are intrigued by Steve and their questions probe into the life of a researcher and scientists, his research the ethics of using animals and the wonders of a reductionist who is thinking like a vitalist.